Post by Daniel on Feb 14, 2016 17:16:30 GMT
Mr_Metro: We all know post hypnotics from triggers
Mr_Metro: I think that is for many the first experience
Mr_Metro: You learn to place a trigger in someone and then after the trance, you use them
Mr_Metro: So the state past the trance, which is the awakening state
Mr_Metro: It's still a state where people are susceptible
Mr_Metro: It's always good to test and use your triggers from that point
Mr_Metro: You wake a person up, and you make sure everything went fine
Mr_Metro: Here you adres that you want to test the trigger
Mr_Metro: And with consent you will do
Mr_Metro: That is great, and wonderful
Mr_Metro: We all know this
Mr_Metro: But there are some depths to it
Mr_Metro: There are 2 a 3 ways to do a suggestion
Mr_Metro: You have the direct way
Mr_Metro: The indirect way
Mr_Metro: And there is another one which is without your own direct intend
Mr_Metro: The interesting one we are going to look at
Mr_Metro: And which one I am very interested in
Mr_Metro: Is the one for indirect suggestions
Mr_Metro: And how they impact the post hypnotics
Mr_Metro: Placing triggers when the person does not know about them
Mr_Metro: How do we do such thing
Mr_Metro: How powerful is it
Mr_Metro: And what makes you want to use it
Mr_Metro: Why not be direct with everything you do
Mr_Metro: Well first off, doing the suggestion indirect is a wonderful feeling, because it's not really a trigger there
Mr_Metro: People don't know it's a trigger because it is not
Mr_Metro: When you will place a indirect suggestion and want it to turn it into a trigger
Mr_Metro: Let's say during a confusion induction / suggestion state you said
Mr_Metro: Your mind is the box
Mr_Metro: Your mind and the box is one and the same thing
Mr_Metro: This does not directly seem like a trigger
Mr_Metro: Why not you might say
Mr_Metro: Well there is no cause and affect
Mr_Metro: Nothing to trigger
Mr_Metro: But once the person is out of the trance
Mr_Metro: This is where you can turn this suggestion into a trigger
Mr_Metro: What if you as a tist
Mr_Metro: Would say
Mr_Metro: I placed a picture of a dog in your box
Mr_Metro: What do you think would happen?
Mr_Metro: The person is not in trance
Daniel: I have no idea
Daniel: they would feel more like a dog?
Mr_Metro: A picture we have a picture
Mr_Metro: We are dealing with indirect suggestions
Daniel: right
Mr_Metro: That means that we play with the connections in the mind
Mr_Metro: If we see a picture
Daniel: much less direct than I usually do
Mr_Metro: We see something, a image
Mr_Metro: That is the connection you are working with
Mr_Metro: So the person would see a image of a dog
Mr_Metro: Imagining a dog in their head, that is easy to do
Mr_Metro: Imagining a certain thing
Mr_Metro: And that is what you want
Mr_Metro: You want to build things up like this
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I get it
Mr_Metro: Start with things that are almost too easy, you do not want to fail
Mr_Metro: So we have the box, we placed a image of a dog in it
Mr_Metro: And we created this box as a connection to the mind while in trance
Mr_Metro: us placing a image of a dog in the box is a other sentence for saying
Mr_Metro: I want you to see a dog in your mind
Mr_Metro: The direct vs indirect
Mr_Metro: indirect is cool, because people never expected it to be a trigger
Mr_Metro: And thus, you are doing some of the most awesome things
Mr_Metro: Making people do something without them knowing it
Mr_Metro: A lot of subjects like that, not everyone, again get consent
Mr_Metro: With that, we are going to do a little small question workshop
Mr_Metro: We have the box, a wonderful item
Mr_Metro: What can you think of doing with the box?
Daniel: well, you could suggest putting abstract ideas into the box
Mr_Metro: All outside trance
Daniel: like putting confidence into it
Daniel: or something like that
Mr_Metro: Certainly, you could
Mr_Metro: You see how quickly connecting triggers to items can become a multi tool
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: We can do all sorts of things with the mind now
Mr_Metro: By using this specific kind of trigger
Mr_Metro: Empty the box of all the items in it
Mr_Metro: Makes the mind empty
Daniel: oh nice
Mr_Metro: Write on a paper, on the title you write hobby
Mr_Metro: Then you write under it the hobbies of the person
Mr_Metro: You put it in the box
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: And that are the new hobbies of the person, it's in their mind
Mr_Metro: Things that do not work that well
Mr_Metro: Aphrodisiac, things that require intense feelings
Mr_Metro: A lot of that needs some other kind of suggestion
Mr_Metro: Mostly describing effects of things can help a lot with that
Mr_Metro: Even post hypno
Daniel: that's a really neat idea
Mr_Metro: So that was the simple box example, play around with versions of it
Mr_Metro: I have some others that will show you other aspects of creating connections
Mr_Metro: Who here listens to music?
Daniel: well, I didn't much until I was about 16, but I do now
Mr_Metro: Exactly it's more then common of your age you hear music, or ever heard it
Mr_Metro: It's part of our normal life
Mr_Metro: And things part of our normal life work really well
Mr_Metro: We already have tons of connections with that
Mr_Metro: The box example, does not bring a ton of connections by itself
Mr_Metro: You need to connect it to the mind
Mr_Metro: Music however
Mr_Metro: That always gives a feeling
Mr_Metro: And connects to all emotional spectrums
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: Even making people more submissive or dominant
Mr_Metro: Within the trance you would have a more direct suggestion take part of this
Mr_Metro: You give the person a headset
Mr_Metro: Tell them you can higher the volume
Mr_Metro: That you can change the music in any way you want
Daniel: oh nice
Mr_Metro: The important thing in this is
Mr_Metro: The pre talk
Mr_Metro: Before trance begins I suggest talking a bit about how music creates feelings
Mr_Metro: Don't do that in trance
Mr_Metro: It's less effective, there are reasons why you do certain things in pre talk and not in trance
Mr_Metro: So, you give them the headset
Mr_Metro: And you have control over it
Mr_Metro: Over the music that comes out of it
Mr_Metro: We wake the person up again
Mr_Metro: Up Up Awake
Mr_Metro: You are now completely awake
Mr_Metro: And from there
Mr_Metro: We have our subject in the awakening state
Mr_Metro: Now do understand
Mr_Metro: Do not have the music on while they where in trance
Mr_Metro: You do not have to say anything about it
Mr_Metro: Best to ignore any effects of the music while they are in trance
Mr_Metro: You can easily test the effects out of trance
Mr_Metro: And they are susceptible enough for you to change some stuff
Mr_Metro: Now we play some music
Mr_Metro: Maybe you connected it to a button to create a stronger effect
Mr_Metro: Or you just say
Mr_Metro changes the music to the music of intense erotic pleasure
Mr_Metro: And there we go
Mr_Metro: Another powerful multi tool of a trigger
Daniel:
Mr_Metro: The nice thing about this
Mr_Metro: Is the volume
Mr_Metro: If you do not get the wishful effect
Mr_Metro: You can change the volume
Mr_Metro: Try a variation on this
Mr_Metro: Make the volume button a counter
Mr_Metro: 100 being the hardest and most extreme
Mr_Metro: Say that the volume is very low, even when they feel intense pleasure
Mr_Metro: And you have a very mean play thing
Mr_Metro: Post hypnotics
Mr_Metro: Suggestions and the triggers
Mr_Metro: Could you suggest some powerful things after a trance
Mr_Metro: The answer is, well everything you said in hypno
Mr_Metro: Can become a trigger or a point of suggestibility
Mr_Metro: The preference goes to items, but if you forgot to place a drop trigger
Mr_Metro: And you really wanted to place one
Mr_Metro: You might have felt powerless
Mr_Metro: You are not
Mr_Metro: You can still place a drop trigger
Mr_Metro: But it has to be done indirect, and just take a tad more work and creativity
Mr_Metro: With these things all said
Mr_Metro: I will take in some questions
Daniel: do they stop working at some point? like a month later, will the box thing still work?
Daniel: assuming you haven't hypnotized them again
Mr_Metro: Good question
Mr_Metro: If you had a indirect suggestion, and you forgot to make it a trigger
Mr_Metro: Your brief window is gone
Mr_Metro: It won't work anymore
Mr_Metro: Within a day
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: If you where able to place the trigger
Mr_Metro: And that was just the session, there are multiple variables to take into account
Mr_Metro: But in general, they will go away
Mr_Metro: Mostly when you stop thinking about them, or try to resist anything
Mr_Metro: Whenever you resist your mind becomes better at protecting itself
Mr_Metro: Which is awful for hypno XD
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I try not to resist
Mr_Metro: So, mostly, as a rule of thumb. triggers who do not get maintenance will not stay longer then 5 days
Mr_Metro: Slowly weakening during the process
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I did something a bit like that for my girlfriend. I didn't use a trigger for months, and it still worked after, but that's probably because I used to so much before that
Daniel: so I probably reinforced it really well
Mr_Metro: Exactly, it needs reinforcement, it's unpredictable because every human is different
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I have noticed with some subjects that the trigger is gone the next day
Mr_Metro: That happens
Mr_Metro: Especially when not reinforced at all
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: The it's just gone
Mr_Metro: Fragments of it are still there though
Mr_Metro: Our mind makes connections very fast
Mr_Metro: So there are certainly things you can do
Mr_Metro: Ask some more questions ^^
Daniel: I don't know if I can think of any more
Daniel: I've done this sort of thing in the past, though in a much more direct way
Mr_Metro: There are a lot of ways to do stuff
Daniel: like with my girlfriend, I suggested that whenever I put my hand on her forehead, her conscious mind would be unable to hear me, but her unconscious would still hear me
Daniel: so I can give her suggestions like that -- or at least I could in the past
Mr_Metro: That is cool ^^
Daniel: maybe it's worn off by now
Daniel: but this indirect stuff sounds pretty fun, so I want to try that out
Mr_Metro: It is a lot of fun
Mr_Metro: Another way, which I think is very experimental and I never been able to do is
Mr_Metro: Is the way when people look up to you
Mr_Metro: They see you as a idol
Mr_Metro: When in trance, you can do a conversational induction + trance
Mr_Metro: And you can place trigger by saying
Mr_Metro: Hugging makes me feel so incredibly good
Mr_Metro: You get the kind of copy me trigger
Mr_Metro: Do what I do, feel what I feel
Mr_Metro: Which works really well when the subject idolizes you
Mr_Metro: But then again, I still need to see how well that workd
Daniel nods.
Daniel: that makes sense
Mr_Metro: A bonus to this lesson
Mr_Metro: Conversational trance in general and the impact of it on post hypnotics
Mr_Metro: Really wild and big, in general if you where a willing subject I could trance you during the lesson
Mr_Metro: As long as it follows the big rules, that your focus is completely on me
Mr_Metro: And that I am able to talk to your subconscious
Mr_Metro: Conversation induction takes use of that
Mr_Metro: Which is more covert in nature
Mr_Metro: You want it covert
Mr_Metro: For the effect it has on the subconscious and the following trigger
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: Because you won't know when you go in trance
Daniel: that's really neat
Mr_Metro: Add that on the common effects of confusion
Mr_Metro: And you got a very deep trance people will not remember
Mr_Metro: Unless, it's like a magickal trigger keyword
Mr_Metro: Unless you say it was confusion, because that confusion stops them from remembering
Mr_Metro: If there is no confusion about how they went into trance
Mr_Metro: The rest will follow and they will remember the trance
Daniel nods.
Daniel: that makes sense. this indirect stuff probably works far better for covert stuff
Mr_Metro: But if not, and you placed a drop trigger
Daniel: I'm sure my whole unconscious mind thing would be very difficult to get across
Mr_Metro: indirect is very covert in nature
Mr_Metro: Covert being the asshole way of trancing someone
Daniel:
Mr_Metro: Because it's not officially complete covert if you ask for consent
Daniel: of course
Mr_Metro: But if you placed a drop trigger
Mr_Metro: And you drop them
Mr_Metro: And you act like nothing happened
Mr_Metro: They will have a even bigger trouble to remember that trance
Mr_Metro: Unless of course the card house falls down
Mr_Metro: Don't mess too much with it
Mr_Metro: If people truly can not remember
Mr_Metro: Then watch out
Mr_Metro: We are dealing with headache galore
Mr_Metro: Amnesia is for more advanced tists
Mr_Metro: In general you are never advanced xD
Daniel:
Mr_Metro: When people wake up from it and you question their believes
Daniel: I know of lots of hypnotists who thought they could get away with doing something bad because they hypnotized the sub to forget
Mr_Metro: In any way, they can easily get a headache
Daniel: and of course I know about these hypnotists because the sub figured things out and took them to court
Mr_Metro:
Mr_Metro: Well that is quite a thing
Daniel: yeah. one woman kept having dreams about her hypnotist having sex with her, so she took a recording device in her clothes the next time she went to see him
Mr_Metro: That is sick, I do not think that is something we should talk about in the lesson
Mr_Metro: People, there are retards of hypnotists out there
Daniel: yeah, probably not
Mr_Metro: We all make a mistake sometime
Mr_Metro: Some just like making mistakes their hobby
Mr_Metro: Hope to keep it tongue and cheek ^^
Daniel:
Daniel: sorry
Mr_Metro: No problem
Mr_Metro: That will end the practice for the lesson
Mr_Metro: Thank you very much
Daniel: ok
Daniel: no problem
Daniel: that was interesting, and I'll have to try some things out
Daniel: so thank you
Mr_Metro: I think that is for many the first experience
Mr_Metro: You learn to place a trigger in someone and then after the trance, you use them
Mr_Metro: So the state past the trance, which is the awakening state
Mr_Metro: It's still a state where people are susceptible
Mr_Metro: It's always good to test and use your triggers from that point
Mr_Metro: You wake a person up, and you make sure everything went fine
Mr_Metro: Here you adres that you want to test the trigger
Mr_Metro: And with consent you will do
Mr_Metro: That is great, and wonderful
Mr_Metro: We all know this
Mr_Metro: But there are some depths to it
Mr_Metro: There are 2 a 3 ways to do a suggestion
Mr_Metro: You have the direct way
Mr_Metro: The indirect way
Mr_Metro: And there is another one which is without your own direct intend
Mr_Metro: The interesting one we are going to look at
Mr_Metro: And which one I am very interested in
Mr_Metro: Is the one for indirect suggestions
Mr_Metro: And how they impact the post hypnotics
Mr_Metro: Placing triggers when the person does not know about them
Mr_Metro: How do we do such thing
Mr_Metro: How powerful is it
Mr_Metro: And what makes you want to use it
Mr_Metro: Why not be direct with everything you do
Mr_Metro: Well first off, doing the suggestion indirect is a wonderful feeling, because it's not really a trigger there
Mr_Metro: People don't know it's a trigger because it is not
Mr_Metro: When you will place a indirect suggestion and want it to turn it into a trigger
Mr_Metro: Let's say during a confusion induction / suggestion state you said
Mr_Metro: Your mind is the box
Mr_Metro: Your mind and the box is one and the same thing
Mr_Metro: This does not directly seem like a trigger
Mr_Metro: Why not you might say
Mr_Metro: Well there is no cause and affect
Mr_Metro: Nothing to trigger
Mr_Metro: But once the person is out of the trance
Mr_Metro: This is where you can turn this suggestion into a trigger
Mr_Metro: What if you as a tist
Mr_Metro: Would say
Mr_Metro: I placed a picture of a dog in your box
Mr_Metro: What do you think would happen?
Mr_Metro: The person is not in trance
Daniel: I have no idea
Daniel: they would feel more like a dog?
Mr_Metro: A picture we have a picture
Mr_Metro: We are dealing with indirect suggestions
Daniel: right
Mr_Metro: That means that we play with the connections in the mind
Mr_Metro: If we see a picture
Daniel: much less direct than I usually do
Mr_Metro: We see something, a image
Mr_Metro: That is the connection you are working with
Mr_Metro: So the person would see a image of a dog
Mr_Metro: Imagining a dog in their head, that is easy to do
Mr_Metro: Imagining a certain thing
Mr_Metro: And that is what you want
Mr_Metro: You want to build things up like this
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I get it
Mr_Metro: Start with things that are almost too easy, you do not want to fail
Mr_Metro: So we have the box, we placed a image of a dog in it
Mr_Metro: And we created this box as a connection to the mind while in trance
Mr_Metro: us placing a image of a dog in the box is a other sentence for saying
Mr_Metro: I want you to see a dog in your mind
Mr_Metro: The direct vs indirect
Mr_Metro: indirect is cool, because people never expected it to be a trigger
Mr_Metro: And thus, you are doing some of the most awesome things
Mr_Metro: Making people do something without them knowing it
Mr_Metro: A lot of subjects like that, not everyone, again get consent
Mr_Metro: With that, we are going to do a little small question workshop
Mr_Metro: We have the box, a wonderful item
Mr_Metro: What can you think of doing with the box?
Daniel: well, you could suggest putting abstract ideas into the box
Mr_Metro: All outside trance
Daniel: like putting confidence into it
Daniel: or something like that
Mr_Metro: Certainly, you could
Mr_Metro: You see how quickly connecting triggers to items can become a multi tool
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: We can do all sorts of things with the mind now
Mr_Metro: By using this specific kind of trigger
Mr_Metro: Empty the box of all the items in it
Mr_Metro: Makes the mind empty
Daniel: oh nice
Mr_Metro: Write on a paper, on the title you write hobby
Mr_Metro: Then you write under it the hobbies of the person
Mr_Metro: You put it in the box
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: And that are the new hobbies of the person, it's in their mind
Mr_Metro: Things that do not work that well
Mr_Metro: Aphrodisiac, things that require intense feelings
Mr_Metro: A lot of that needs some other kind of suggestion
Mr_Metro: Mostly describing effects of things can help a lot with that
Mr_Metro: Even post hypno
Daniel: that's a really neat idea
Mr_Metro: So that was the simple box example, play around with versions of it
Mr_Metro: I have some others that will show you other aspects of creating connections
Mr_Metro: Who here listens to music?
Daniel: well, I didn't much until I was about 16, but I do now
Mr_Metro: Exactly it's more then common of your age you hear music, or ever heard it
Mr_Metro: It's part of our normal life
Mr_Metro: And things part of our normal life work really well
Mr_Metro: We already have tons of connections with that
Mr_Metro: The box example, does not bring a ton of connections by itself
Mr_Metro: You need to connect it to the mind
Mr_Metro: Music however
Mr_Metro: That always gives a feeling
Mr_Metro: And connects to all emotional spectrums
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: Even making people more submissive or dominant
Mr_Metro: Within the trance you would have a more direct suggestion take part of this
Mr_Metro: You give the person a headset
Mr_Metro: Tell them you can higher the volume
Mr_Metro: That you can change the music in any way you want
Daniel: oh nice
Mr_Metro: The important thing in this is
Mr_Metro: The pre talk
Mr_Metro: Before trance begins I suggest talking a bit about how music creates feelings
Mr_Metro: Don't do that in trance
Mr_Metro: It's less effective, there are reasons why you do certain things in pre talk and not in trance
Mr_Metro: So, you give them the headset
Mr_Metro: And you have control over it
Mr_Metro: Over the music that comes out of it
Mr_Metro: We wake the person up again
Mr_Metro: Up Up Awake
Mr_Metro: You are now completely awake
Mr_Metro: And from there
Mr_Metro: We have our subject in the awakening state
Mr_Metro: Now do understand
Mr_Metro: Do not have the music on while they where in trance
Mr_Metro: You do not have to say anything about it
Mr_Metro: Best to ignore any effects of the music while they are in trance
Mr_Metro: You can easily test the effects out of trance
Mr_Metro: And they are susceptible enough for you to change some stuff
Mr_Metro: Now we play some music
Mr_Metro: Maybe you connected it to a button to create a stronger effect
Mr_Metro: Or you just say
Mr_Metro changes the music to the music of intense erotic pleasure
Mr_Metro: And there we go
Mr_Metro: Another powerful multi tool of a trigger
Daniel:
Mr_Metro: The nice thing about this
Mr_Metro: Is the volume
Mr_Metro: If you do not get the wishful effect
Mr_Metro: You can change the volume
Mr_Metro: Try a variation on this
Mr_Metro: Make the volume button a counter
Mr_Metro: 100 being the hardest and most extreme
Mr_Metro: Say that the volume is very low, even when they feel intense pleasure
Mr_Metro: And you have a very mean play thing
Mr_Metro: Post hypnotics
Mr_Metro: Suggestions and the triggers
Mr_Metro: Could you suggest some powerful things after a trance
Mr_Metro: The answer is, well everything you said in hypno
Mr_Metro: Can become a trigger or a point of suggestibility
Mr_Metro: The preference goes to items, but if you forgot to place a drop trigger
Mr_Metro: And you really wanted to place one
Mr_Metro: You might have felt powerless
Mr_Metro: You are not
Mr_Metro: You can still place a drop trigger
Mr_Metro: But it has to be done indirect, and just take a tad more work and creativity
Mr_Metro: With these things all said
Mr_Metro: I will take in some questions
Daniel: do they stop working at some point? like a month later, will the box thing still work?
Daniel: assuming you haven't hypnotized them again
Mr_Metro: Good question
Mr_Metro: If you had a indirect suggestion, and you forgot to make it a trigger
Mr_Metro: Your brief window is gone
Mr_Metro: It won't work anymore
Mr_Metro: Within a day
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: If you where able to place the trigger
Mr_Metro: And that was just the session, there are multiple variables to take into account
Mr_Metro: But in general, they will go away
Mr_Metro: Mostly when you stop thinking about them, or try to resist anything
Mr_Metro: Whenever you resist your mind becomes better at protecting itself
Mr_Metro: Which is awful for hypno XD
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I try not to resist
Mr_Metro: So, mostly, as a rule of thumb. triggers who do not get maintenance will not stay longer then 5 days
Mr_Metro: Slowly weakening during the process
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I did something a bit like that for my girlfriend. I didn't use a trigger for months, and it still worked after, but that's probably because I used to so much before that
Daniel: so I probably reinforced it really well
Mr_Metro: Exactly, it needs reinforcement, it's unpredictable because every human is different
Daniel nods.
Daniel: I have noticed with some subjects that the trigger is gone the next day
Mr_Metro: That happens
Mr_Metro: Especially when not reinforced at all
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: The it's just gone
Mr_Metro: Fragments of it are still there though
Mr_Metro: Our mind makes connections very fast
Mr_Metro: So there are certainly things you can do
Mr_Metro: Ask some more questions ^^
Daniel: I don't know if I can think of any more
Daniel: I've done this sort of thing in the past, though in a much more direct way
Mr_Metro: There are a lot of ways to do stuff
Daniel: like with my girlfriend, I suggested that whenever I put my hand on her forehead, her conscious mind would be unable to hear me, but her unconscious would still hear me
Daniel: so I can give her suggestions like that -- or at least I could in the past
Mr_Metro: That is cool ^^
Daniel: maybe it's worn off by now
Daniel: but this indirect stuff sounds pretty fun, so I want to try that out
Mr_Metro: It is a lot of fun
Mr_Metro: Another way, which I think is very experimental and I never been able to do is
Mr_Metro: Is the way when people look up to you
Mr_Metro: They see you as a idol
Mr_Metro: When in trance, you can do a conversational induction + trance
Mr_Metro: And you can place trigger by saying
Mr_Metro: Hugging makes me feel so incredibly good
Mr_Metro: You get the kind of copy me trigger
Mr_Metro: Do what I do, feel what I feel
Mr_Metro: Which works really well when the subject idolizes you
Mr_Metro: But then again, I still need to see how well that workd
Daniel nods.
Daniel: that makes sense
Mr_Metro: A bonus to this lesson
Mr_Metro: Conversational trance in general and the impact of it on post hypnotics
Mr_Metro: Really wild and big, in general if you where a willing subject I could trance you during the lesson
Mr_Metro: As long as it follows the big rules, that your focus is completely on me
Mr_Metro: And that I am able to talk to your subconscious
Mr_Metro: Conversation induction takes use of that
Mr_Metro: Which is more covert in nature
Mr_Metro: You want it covert
Mr_Metro: For the effect it has on the subconscious and the following trigger
Daniel nods.
Mr_Metro: Because you won't know when you go in trance
Daniel: that's really neat
Mr_Metro: Add that on the common effects of confusion
Mr_Metro: And you got a very deep trance people will not remember
Mr_Metro: Unless, it's like a magickal trigger keyword
Mr_Metro: Unless you say it was confusion, because that confusion stops them from remembering
Mr_Metro: If there is no confusion about how they went into trance
Mr_Metro: The rest will follow and they will remember the trance
Daniel nods.
Daniel: that makes sense. this indirect stuff probably works far better for covert stuff
Mr_Metro: But if not, and you placed a drop trigger
Daniel: I'm sure my whole unconscious mind thing would be very difficult to get across
Mr_Metro: indirect is very covert in nature
Mr_Metro: Covert being the asshole way of trancing someone
Daniel:
Mr_Metro: Because it's not officially complete covert if you ask for consent
Daniel: of course
Mr_Metro: But if you placed a drop trigger
Mr_Metro: And you drop them
Mr_Metro: And you act like nothing happened
Mr_Metro: They will have a even bigger trouble to remember that trance
Mr_Metro: Unless of course the card house falls down
Mr_Metro: Don't mess too much with it
Mr_Metro: If people truly can not remember
Mr_Metro: Then watch out
Mr_Metro: We are dealing with headache galore
Mr_Metro: Amnesia is for more advanced tists
Mr_Metro: In general you are never advanced xD
Daniel:
Mr_Metro: When people wake up from it and you question their believes
Daniel: I know of lots of hypnotists who thought they could get away with doing something bad because they hypnotized the sub to forget
Mr_Metro: In any way, they can easily get a headache
Daniel: and of course I know about these hypnotists because the sub figured things out and took them to court
Mr_Metro:
Mr_Metro: Well that is quite a thing
Daniel: yeah. one woman kept having dreams about her hypnotist having sex with her, so she took a recording device in her clothes the next time she went to see him
Mr_Metro: That is sick, I do not think that is something we should talk about in the lesson
Mr_Metro: People, there are retards of hypnotists out there
Daniel: yeah, probably not
Mr_Metro: We all make a mistake sometime
Mr_Metro: Some just like making mistakes their hobby
Mr_Metro: Hope to keep it tongue and cheek ^^
Daniel:
Daniel: sorry
Mr_Metro: No problem
Mr_Metro: That will end the practice for the lesson
Mr_Metro: Thank you very much
Daniel: ok
Daniel: no problem
Daniel: that was interesting, and I'll have to try some things out
Daniel: so thank you